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I feel that if your parroting, you should have some goal to it

5:20 PM

Also, its never too early or too late for a response @🪷

I personally just parroted with normal conversations but i didn't do a lot of parroting as eishi started responding to my words pretty early

Her being new doesnt mean she cant be vocal

5:21 PM

It also helps to just talk to her, and have her listen to you

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5:21 PM

I personally would do it with the intention that she is listening and learning

5:22 PM

Also, tell her that she can start speaking any time she wants

berockly (TTG)

Are you just running her through some situations, to sort of teach her how to act in said situations?

just asking her stuff etc

Try just narrating to her

wdym

"Free your grip" on her a bit

okay!

And just talk to her, with the intention of her listening

okay tyty

Just explain things to her in detail, doesnt matter what itis

5:37 PM

Also tell her she can respond any time she feels like it

5:37 PM

On top

5:37 PM

On top of that, if she has a form, tell her to nod her head every once in awhile

wdym by form?

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wdym by form?

Does she have a look?

5:47 PM

And, are you able to imagine her?

ohh yes i am! i have a very vivid imagineation

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ohh yes i am! i have a very vivid imagineation

Then, imagine her sitting in a chair

5:52 PM

And just, start talking to her

okayyy

If your able to imagine a character move without your conscious effort, the same can apply for a tullpa

5:53 PM

(An example would be, moving through a city crowd and seeing the people in the crowd move around)

okay!

If you've imagined her in the chair, what is she doing?

she would be sat (if i was talking to her) she would be sat listening probably with her legs crossed

Oh? How busy are you by the way

5:55 PM

I like giving guided imagination sessions, if you have time

i have time!

5:55 PM

only thing is i need to to homework later

Alright i sent a friend request

Parroting as an early forcing method has been out of fashion for years and I'm bringing it back a bit, just because framing it as an intentional method helps prevent "parrotnoia"

6:43 PM

(@ people used to exclusively hearing it as a bad thing)

It's been out of fashion? Huh i didn't know that

Though you should by all means stop parroting once your tulpa becomes vocal

Yeah that's what i did

Kei Wendt

It's been out of fashion? Huh i didn't know that

Parrotnoia became the norm, and people started using "parroting" to mean "I don't think my tulpa is actually the one speaking, I think it's just me" - which is horrible to think, for development

6:47 PM

But it was originally meant as an intentional early vocality training technique

Ahh

Reisen

Parroting as an early forcing method has been out of fashion for years and I'm bringing it back a bit, just because framing it as an intentional method helps prevent "parrotnoia"

what should u you instead

You can still parrot if you want But valentine has talked, right? So it's not necessary to parrot anymore Try to just talk to her

8:11 PM

And see if you can get her to respond

no no she hasnt talked

8:13 PM

ive had her for under 24hrs tgo

Ohh so you were parroting Yeah then you can keep parroting until she talks

okayy

Wha? She was talking in chat yesterday tho

Yeah i thought that was her directly but was it parroting?

i guess

If you don't feel like it was parroting, or you didn't deliberately parrot, it was her talking

i was parroting

8:31 PM

i didnt really know what to do haha

Yeah that's okay! Parroting is a good step Eventually she'll be able to talk without you making her talk though So if you want to have more convos with you parroting for her, feel free

8:33 PM

Just try not to think too much about it. Sometimes it might feel like "oh, did she say that, or did i?" If that happens, assume it was her, because it probably was.

okay tysm

Is it normal for tulpas to be less active when you don't have a lot of energy?

11:58 PM

I'm guessing yes, because if you have less energy they'd have less energy too

yes

What are your opinions of my process and how can I improve? I just started and so far I have passively forced often throughout the day, just thinking of her name or inquiring what she thinks about what's going on or scenery, etc. At night I've spent about an hour or more before bed trying to actively force. I mindspeak and tell her what her traits are. So far I have around 20, mostly based on an INFJ personality. I close my eyes sitting in bed and try to imagine the same room but with her sitting in front of me or laying by me in a human form. Sometimes I just visualize a ball of light or essence because I think it's probably easier. I'd love to hear suggestions

That seems like a good process, it's similar to what i did You could also try talking to her, to see if she'll respond yet. If she doesn't respond, you could try parroting if you're comfortable, which is consciously coming up with what she would say.

I've done a small amount of parroting. I think it's too early to see if she will respond, this is only like night 3 haha

I got my tulpa responding to me on day 2 so it's not too early imo If you're not comfortable yet though, that's okay Part of creating a tulpa is becoming comfortable with the thought processes

Almost instantly I got like intrusive thoughts that were like parroting but it felt like just imagining any other person speak. It's also hard to wade through intrusive thoughts in general that disrupt focus. I feel comfortable but I would probably get freaked out the first time they surprise me with speech lol (edited)

Best to take what you imagine as your tulpa speaking, unless of course they're saying really bad or clearly negative, unhealthy things.

Holsri

Almost instantly I got like intrusive thoughts that were like parroting but it felt like just imagining any other person speak. It's also hard to wade through intrusive thoughts in general that disrupt focus. I feel comfortable but I would probably get freaked out the first time they surprise me with speech lol (edited)

Intrusive thoughts that are your tulpa speaking is probably your tulpa speaking

You'll need to fake it till you make it; I wouldn't worry about wondering whether a voice is or isn't your tulpa.

2:40 AM

Intrusive thoughts are negative almost always, forceful, and undesirable. You'll learn the difference.

Maybe random thought is a better term for what I am trying to convey. But thank you for the input. I'm naturally a skeptical person so it's hard to suspend disbelief in scenarios like that

Often times, a tulpa will sound very similar to their host at first anyways, it can be hard to differentiate, so I get that.

I think what I am partly experiencing is like thinking a sentence and then automatically knowing the impression so I generate a response. But when focusing hard, I cannot hear her or get any feedback yet.

wonderland isn’t required btw

Holsri

I think what I am partly experiencing is like thinking a sentence and then automatically knowing the impression so I generate a response. But when focusing hard, I cannot hear her or get any feedback yet.

Go with the former and not the latter. Tulpas run off the same brain, and your brain knows what you're thinking before you finish wording it, so you can get responses part way through saying something. Meanwhile if you focus hard like that, you kinda just shut everything up so no one says anything

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For wonderland focus, you can try verbally describing what you're seeing and doing, to keep everything consistent and on course, and it can help with visual quality too. Form changing is common-ish. You can take it as intrusive thoughts/imagery or you can take it as your tulpa changing their form

3:44 PM

Also if wonderland is being too troublesome you can just focus on interacting with your tulpa. Some people find writing to their tulpa helpful for focus

Yuka

Go with the former and not the latter. Tulpas run off the same brain, and your brain knows what you're thinking before you finish wording it, so you can get responses part way through saying something. Meanwhile if you focus hard like that, you kinda just shut everything up so no one says anything

Ok, thank you!

Yuka

Also if wonderland is being too troublesome you can just focus on interacting with your tulpa. Some people find writing to their tulpa helpful for focus

I never even thought about doing that.

It would, yes.

1:54 AM

At least, I'd think so. Whether it's active or passive, it would still be helping develop them, so I'd focus more on that.

1:55 AM

You can always gradually build up your wonderland as you learn to better visualize more simple objects. Personally, I'd start with a very simple WL, with not a whole lot of detail to misremember

1:56 AM

it doesn't have to be a perfect sequence, IMO. We personally fuck things up all the time, but then go "oh well, where were we again?" and start back with what we know.

1:57 AM

It can be a little bothersome, but it's not the end of the world.

Maybe she wants you to switch names for her? Some people like switching names

2:01 AM

She must like them both then

2:02 AM

Fair lol

I think my tulpa is talking to me? I’m not sure if it’s me but I’m not sure if it’s my tulpa, I’ve had her for 3-4 days and when I parrot her sometimes I feel like she did respond but I’m not sure if it was her or if it was me. When i say it back as me it doesn’t feel the same when my tulpa might of said it

5:35 PM

Yesterday I said I like southpark (dont ask) and i heard a “me too” from my head but I wasn’t sure if it was me or not or I was convincing myself it was my tulpa (edited)

I wouldn't worry, just go with it and accept it imo.

Okay tysm!

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I think my tulpa is talking to me? I’m not sure if it’s me but I’m not sure if it’s my tulpa, I’ve had her for 3-4 days and when I parrot her sometimes I feel like she did respond but I’m not sure if it was her or if it was me. When i say it back as me it doesn’t feel the same when my tulpa might of said it

Just dont overthink it, keep going and your tulpa will be fully talking by themselves in no time. Even if she is not fully separate i would encourage you to bring her here and let her talk to people

(if she wants of course) That might help a lot.

Okay tysm! Im trying not to have doubts but it’s difficult

Do you have a tupper set-up?

Yes I do

Thats great

I dont really use it as valentine doesn’t really speak

Why dont you let her write a presentation or something? Maybe shell find writing easier than speaking.

5:47 PM

You might ask her to answer yes/no with her head if you are unsure as if you should.